Saturday, November 24, 2007

What really is a graph

A graph is usuaaly define as an x-axis against a y-axis.
What do you understand by a graph and the use of a graph?

105 comments:

Anonymous said...

What I understand by a graph is that it consists of both x and y values

Anonymous said...

A gra[h is used to so the relation between 2 real objects

Notice said...

alpha_pi

if i have 3 points connected together, isn't that still a graph. i my opinion of a graph, i think it is a sketch or diagram show the connection between to or more points represented on both axis. i must say that i strongly agree with u when u say that it consists of both x and y values.

Notice said...

alpha_p

to help backup my last statement, i would like to take a curved graph for example. it consists of more than 2 points. not only can a graph be curved, but it can be straight or any other design as long as it doesn't end on the same point on which it began. for e.g. a circle ends where it begins, so i don't consider it to be a graph, however a semi-circle could be one. anyone feel free to correct me if am wrong. I'm eager to learn more!

Notice said...

a)what i understand about a graph is that each point on the graph represents 2 values in which 1 is on the y-axis and 1 is on the x-axis.

b)the use of a graph is to represent the values of 1 body against the values of another body! for e.g. the number of apples against the number of oranges!

ratman said...

a graph shows the relationship between two things in real life. e.g distance and time.

ratman said...

alpha_pi and notice.. don't forget that x and y are only used to represent values. u can label the axies differently. x and y are not compulsory, they are just commonly used.For e.g f(x) can be used in the case of functions to represent the
"y-axis".

mathworm said...

A graph is a representation of information that shows how one quantity varies with another quantity for example a graph displaying distance versus time. That shows the speed or acceleration of an object.

Notice said...

ratman

u have me confused! right now i'm very puzzled. u say that a graph shows the relationship between two things in real life. e.g distance and time. is it that u are trying to say that distance and time is real life?

u then go on to say that u can label the axies differently. x and y are not compulsory, they are just commonly used. i like to say that i think the axies are compulsory in the sense that the axies name never changes, it is the representation on the axies that changes. the x-axis will always be called the x-axis and will always run horizontally likewise for the y-axis running vertically. these axies name never changes but what ever is represented on the axis is what changes. for e.g. you can have the number of oranges or the number of apples on the y-axis, the is what changes, but after all it is still the y-axis and runs vertically. that never changes.

Anonymous said...

what do i understand by a graph....a graph is used to plot points.these points can either be an x pt or a y pt.
wen you plot these two pts you can join them to create a line....(a line is 2 pts connected)

SLY said...

A graph is the distance between two points by the use of a range on two axis.

SLY said...

A graph is also used to show processes,eg.(the changes in state of water from ice to water vapour.

SLY said...

A graph is also a way of showing a range of values

Fariel Mohan said...

notice

This is the type of response I am checking. You are responding to somebody, Ratman.

Your entries that builds on the comments is what is being encouraged.

Sly all you said is really one comment, not three

Fariel

ratman said...

notice

ok now i fully understand your ideas
because i actually thought its the x and y labels remaining the same..lol..but i understand. oh and yes speed and distance is in real life

Fred Fredburger said...

a graph is a diagram that shows a set of points, vertices, joined by cureve or lines

marz said...

fred fredburger that definition to complicated for some children. Some might not knoe about it

Anonymous said...

alpha pi said that it shows the relationship....what kind of relationship? i do not understand that statement!!!

marz said...

i think a graph is a diagram that shows the relationship between two things e.g distance and time as ratman rightly said and also

Elmo said...

i understand that the graph is used to reprent any real life value such as time, distance, temperature or even speed.

I think you can use a graph to show how a reaction occur by plotting the time the reaction take to occur by the temperature.

Fariel Mohan said...

Give some examples trying to explain what is a relationship between two things

space_alien said...

I believe that a graph represents the relationship between 2 things in really life scenario eg. how fast you are driving to how long will you take to reach at a particular place.

marz said...

i dont understand what notice means when he says that 3 points when connected is a graph how is that so?im confused

Glitter said...

what i understand of a graph is that it is the representation of the relationship of two values.the y axix is vertical and the x axis is horizontal.

space_alien said...

it was suppsoe to be real not really,

marz said...

to my understanding 3 points connected together will give a line

Fred Fredburger said...

ok, for example a car is travelling and you want to find the relationship between the distance the car travels and the time it takes to travel at certain distances.

therefore you would label the two axis as Time and Distance, this states that you are showing a relationship between these two things.

Initially when time is zero, distance is zero and as you go you create a gradient or slope as to distance against time, on this slope you can create points to show at a certain time the distance travelled was...

Time/Distance = Velocity
that is an e.g. of what the graph can be used to calculate

Anonymous said...

the relationship between 2 things can be (1) the distance between two persons
(2)a moving object as compared to a stationary object
THe relationship can expand to more than 2 objects...
(3) the time taken for 10 persond to finish a race

yoshi said...

a graph is just a representation of a horizontal line for the horizontal, a vertical line for the vertical and one that protrudes for 3-d purposes. Co-ordinates i.e. points that are represented on a graph uses these lines which have measurements to represent a certain position from another.

Fred Fredburger said...

marz, 2 points can be used to make a line, why do you say 3? you make it sound like if only 3 points can do that, explain please

Glitter said...

i agree with fred fredburger

Anonymous said...

i think a graph displays the relationship between 2 commodities or 2 different set of values.
x represented on the horizontal axis versus y represented on the vertical axis.

yoshi said...

an example is a sphere which has a magnitude in a horizontal, vertical and outward direction. On a graph the distance between the center and the outer points are uniform and can be represented by the formula 4/3 pi cubic r where r is the distance between the two points.

Brainiac said...

A graph is points plotted to represent to the relationship of two or more things

ratman said...

spartan the axies can be represented by any letter or word or phrases

ratman said...

it is not limited to just x and y

Anonymous said...

Well basically a graph is used in everyday life to show the relation between any two or more things if I am wrong plz correct me

bird said...

From my opinion, i think a graph shows the relationship of a set of points. It shows how more than two points can connect. Well atleast i think so... correct me if im wrong please

Brainiac said...

The relationship between two things can be
The distance and time a car travels from point A to point B.
The distance is on the y-axis and the time on the x-axis.

Fred Fredburger said...
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Anonymous said...

an example of this is that a value for x can be the time taken for an object to reach from point A to ptB.y can be the distance the object travelled.the slope of the graph would be the speed at which the object travelled.

bird said...

A graph can be used to compare two things at once. eg. The amount of books you sell in a day. The amount can go on the y axis and the time in days can go on the x axis.

ratman said...

can u have a negative slope??

Glitter said...

trying to explain what a relationship between two things are. if u look at the relationship between
distance and time as fred fredburger explained. since time is constant, it will be represented on the x axis
against distance on the y axis. and the relationship will show how long it takes for a car to travel to a
particular distance

bird said...

spartman

but if you put the distance on x axis and the time on y axis. would it be the same?

ratman said...
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marz said...

e.g a building on a falt piece of land.

the builing goes from up and down so it is vertical and can be represented as the (y axis) and the flat piece of land goes from left to right that is horizontal and is represented as (x axis).

say the closer you walk to the building the closer you moves towards the y axis and the further away you walk away from the building the further away you are from the y axis

marz said...

i simply replyed tto notice because he said that three points is a graph and i said three points wud give a line ,just like 2 or four or six fred fredburger

Elmo said...

hrmi understand that the graph is used to reprent any real life value such as time, distance, temperature or even speed.

bird said...

marz

but a building is 3-D. Not so? so how can you represent using a graph?

marz said...

PEBBLES

i was not talking about a sphere anywhere i was responding to fred

mathworm said...

yoshi what are you talking bout? explain about how the sphere can be related to a graph.

Anonymous said...

Pebbles

If you switch the values how can it be the same you would get a line sloping to the left. Anyone if I am wrong plz correct me

Fred Fredburger said...

thanks for clearing that up MARZ

Glitter said...

yoshi u confused me with ure example

yoshi said...

Ratman a graph cud hav a negative slpoe if u are movin from the top right to lower left in that direction. Pebbles the representation of the values can be be different. It doesn't matter wghether it is thwe x or y however the shape and gradient of the graph will be completely opposite. One question can u start from larger values to smaller values on the graph? this ia an eaxample of a negative slpoe.

pussinboots said...

i understand that a graph has x and y values but it is how ever dependant on how it is represented. for the x axis must b the horizontal line while y axis must always b vertical to the x axis.

marz said...

im puzzled where did a sphere come from in this question. refresh my memory

bird said...

marz

u were using a building as an example to respond to fred. but that kinda confused me. explain a lil more plzz?

Anonymous said...

ratman
i understand that the axies can be represented by any word or phrase but i was just using it as an example.

yoshi
Can u explain urself further or go into more detail with d example u gave with the sphere.i'm kinda lost

bird said...

yoshi

do you mean when you are plotting the values?

marz said...

PEBBLES
I just used the building to represent the y axis as it is tall. try an picture it

ratman said...

marz read yoshi previous comments if ure pusseled

Crimson Crock said...

In my opinion a graph is a method of displaying information in a form that people can understand. Even if you are not verse in mathematics you can still notice trends, make predictions. It helps you to comunicate information in a way in which you can actually see the numbers represented.

ratman said...
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bird said...

marz

im trying to picture it. but im still confused. ?? because a building has a height and base and width not so?

Fred Fredburger said...

pebbles

you asked about distance being on the horizontal axis and time on the vertical axis

usually time is set on the horizontal axis because it usually shows a contant change e.g. 1 - 10 - 20 - 30 etc.

i'm nut sure but i think its find if it's on the vertical axis but then you would have a kinda slant looking graph, because sometimes the distance may be the same and the time is still going.

Glitter said...

pebbles

if u put distance on the x axis and the time on the y axix as compared to the opposite way will not be the
same. as alpha_pi also agrees.
Time is represented on the x axis because it increases or decreases with a constant value whereas
distance could vary. someone correct me if i'm wrong

Crimson Crock said...

situations usually have more than one factor involved. so too do graphs,in an average situation these factors may be related in some way. this is what a graph does it shows a relationship between two things.

bird said...

fred

but would it be correct if the time goes on the vertical axis?

pussinboots said...

yes a building is 3d but how u gonna draw a 3d graph. i know the graph just represents the building in a 2d way 2 give a visual aid of how the buildin looks

Anonymous said...

A graph is the representation of 2 mediums versus each other and is laid out as a 2d image. The x-axsis represents values on a horizontal plane and the y-axsis is perpendicular to the x-axsis therefore it is vertical. And we can also say that the x and y axsies are in essence 'number lines'.

bird said...

pussinboots

thats what i know.

marz

pussinboots has the same view as well. explain clearly

Crimson Crock said...

For an example. if a scientist is doing an experiment and takes results and writes the information he gained in numbers he would be able to understand it for the monent. if he wanted to analyse the information for a certain purpous it wolud be dificult for him to notise trends in the infoormation he collected if it is in table form. but if he representd it in graph form he would be able to notice trends, differences, and other things alot easyer. does anyone agree?

yoshi said...

Yes when u are plotting values the distance is uniform in the all 3 directions for the sphere. Have u ever done add maths? In add maths graphs actually show how to derive a shape usually by a formula which is its area in 2-d cases and its volume in 3-d cases.

Glitter said...

pebbles

marz was not saying u can represent a building on a graph, marz was jus using the building and the ground
to explain the difference between the x and y axis

pussinboots said...

thanks pebbles so if any1 can give me a different view or approach i would greatly appreciate it meeeoooow.

bird said...

crimson crock

i agree. that way the scientist can make predictions using the graph

pussinboots said...

later people

Notice said...

TO: EVERYONE USING THE NETWORK

I WOULD LIKE YOUR ATTENTION FOR A MINUTE!

i would like to touch on certain comments that i see that are constantly being posted. you'll say that a graph is some thing that represents real life values.
you'll go on to say that distance and time is real life values. i would like for you'll to adjust your thinking for a little while. think about it. x and y are aspects of unknown things or could be known if you are given the values of it. these are real things. they are aspects of something. they however have NO LIFE, so when u say that x and y are real life values, you are putting life to it and IT IS NOT ALIVE. the best thing that i think you'll should say is that IT REPRESENT ASPECT OF REAL THINGS. Real does not mean only living things. a wall could be made from real blocks or real wood. this could be represented on a graph of number of block walls to wood walls. the walls doesn't have life. it is non-living things. it is apects of something and has notting to do with life.

Anonymous said...

in relation to the example given by sly. temperature would be represented on the vertical axis and time on the horizontal axis.
the state or the temperature of the water at any given time can be determined by extending a perpendiculsr line towards the graph displayed and observe the relationship it has with the temperature.

pebbles
please get the name right, it's spartan. i don't think the graph would be the same but the realtionship between the 2 shouldn't change.should it?i'm not sure.please correct me if i'm wrong.

jason501 said...

A graph is a record of the values of objects using two comparable relationships.

jason501 said...

An example of what a graph is used for is suppose you have a group of objects and you are told to record these objects by length and weigth. Hence a graph can be used in order to record this type of information and show the relationship among them.

jason501 said...

Graphs are very helpful when it comes to comparing a group of objects. For example, suppose you
have a collection of steel plates however you were asked by someone to make a comparision among the steel plates. If the steel plates are all cricular in shape but are of different sizes then you can compare the area of the steel plates and another property such as the weight or the density of the material.

Anonymous said...

By using a fgraph you are able to communicate information to other pepople.

If you where to communicate information in numbers to someone they may not be able to deeduce certain aspects of it as you might be able to. If it was represented in a graphical way it would be significantly easier to recognise and see. Any coments

Anonymous said...

Apart from compareing and analysing data can a graph be used for any thing else?

CP3 said...

a graph shows the relation between two different things, where these things may change in value, the gragh show these changes by using the x-axis and y-axis

Anonymous said...

The relationship between two things is how one factor affects the other. for example an object moveing is moveing at a certain rate and in a certain direction.

This means that the object which is moveing is displaying more than one characteristic at the same time.

rate of movement is not the same as direction but they are connected and together they express acceleration.

CP3 said...

A graph is a diagrammatic representation of data that displays the relationship among variables, usually cast along x and y axes.

CP3 said...

Graphs don’t necessarily need two points, graph show positions of points, sometimes in relation with each other.

Every point on a two dimensional scale has a x and y axis

Every point on a 3d scale has x, y and z.

CP3 said...

Line graphs curve when at every point on the line changes in very close succession

CP3 said...

When two lines on a graph intersect, at the point of intersection that point is common to both lines

Fariel Mohan said...

notice, pebbles, marz, alpha_pi, spartan, glitter, fred fredburger -you all are actually doing the exercise correctly.

Cp3 and others, you are not doing the project good at all. Redo if comments needs to be considered.

TOP SHOTTAR said...

I think a graph is a representation of a set of points on a x-axis and y-axis

TOP SHOTTAR said...

I amn not very certain of the deffinition that brainiac gave for a graph. Then I would like to ask the question on whator where are the points plotted?

TOP SHOTTAR said...

I amn not very certain of the deffinition that brainiac gave for a graph. Then I would like to ask the question on what or where are the points plotted?

TOP SHOTTAR said...

a graph is used in real life situations eg. a velocity time graph can be used to determine the acceleration of a moving object.

marz said...

top shottar u have to respond to someone comments

marz said...

Cp3

can u explain to me what u meant by this

Line graphs curve when at every point on the line changes in very close succession

TOP SHOTTAR said...

marz I am really confused to the response u sent me, however u should know that the line u asked me to explain was not one of my comments. Please check over my response i.e (top shottar) carefully.

TOP SHOTTAR said...

I am sorry marz I did't know that u were responding to Cp3.

TOP SHOTTAR said...

yoshi

you are not being very clear when u say "a graph is a representationof a horizontal line for a horizontal and vertical line for a vertical ...."

I would say however that it is a representation of a vertical line for the horrizontal axis and a horizontal line for the vertical axis.

This is however not my deffinition of a graph.

Tazmania said...

A graph shows the relationship between two or more variables in the form of a picture. using a graph is convenient in that unknownm values can be calculated.

Who ? said...

A graph consists of two components: vertices and edges. Vertices are simply labels such as numbers and edges are the connections between the vertices.so inorder to draw a graph u need x and y coordinates and to hav these coordinates u need a x and y axis.

Who ? said...

u must hav encountered a normal x and y axis graph in maths b4 where X and Y are simply variables that depend on each other. Normally we treat Y as depending on X. For me graphs are used to summerise a large amt of data into a graphical representation that can easily be read of and allow easy access of info